Pagano-Papismus; Or, an Exact Parallel Between Rome-Pagan and Rome-Christian, in Their Doctrines and Ceremonies
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Pagano-Papismus; Or, an Exact Parallel Between Rome-Pagan and Rome-Christian, in Their Doctrines and Ceremonies
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There was at the City of Nice a notable disputation Niceph. Callist. Eccl. Hist. l. 8. c. 15. p. 379. betwixt one who was a skilfull Logician and learned Philosopher, by nation a Greek, who confiding in his art and eloquence infulted over the orthodox Christians, but was undertaken and taken down by Spiridian an old man, who confuted and converted him: about that time was Arius disputed with and confuted by the Council of Nice: there is question made whether Arius were at the Council or no, which is discussed by Scultetus medul. Patrum. p. 1. p. 467. Anno. 349. Scultetus, and the affirmative proved by him against them that deny it. Aquinas ad. 2d. vol. prim. par. q. 44. ar 4.7. Whether it were convenient that God should require to be beloved with all the heart. Printer's name from STC. Mostly paginated with even numbers on rectos. "Puritano-papismus" (caption title) has separate pagination; register is continuous. Reproduction of the original in the Henry E. Huntington Library and Art Gallery. First, they must be learned in the Learned Languages, in Arts, and Histories, in Textual and Polemical Divinity; for they may in conflict be put to it, to make use of all the learning they have.
Yet he hath not done with the slander of Covetousness, for to render the Parochial Ministers more worthy of reproch, and less capable of excuse for that Crime, and indeed hopeless of all cure. His next Charge, That this iniquity came in with the first foundation of Parochial Divisions; and so as he saith, though most untruly and absurdly of Churches, it will follow it cannot be reformed. CHAP. II. Of a contrary disposition in some too much addicted to disputation; in being too forward to make or accept of offers of dispute, and multiplying of needlesse and presumptuous questions and resolutions in matters of Religion. The second proof of his partiality is this; when Doctor Brian hath proved our Churches of England to be true Churches of Christ by convincing arguments; Nam quae non prosunt singula, juncta valent. Disp. p. 6. (convincing if taken together, though all of them be not of equal evidence and vigour [...]) all that avails nothing towards Mr. O. his satisfaction, unless he prove an impertinency to the Question, viz. That they were true Churches from their very foundation, that is, as he explaineth himself more fully elsewhere, that all the parishes of this Nation, in their first division into Parishes were visible Saints, and that those Churches gathered by preaching onely 500. Exam. of Dr. Br. Reply. p. 30, 37. Ibid. p. 24. Disp. p. 5. years before Augustine the Monk, were such as our Parishes now are, or that they are such now, as they were then: and this he maketh the life of the Doctors cause; and if he prove not this (saith he) he doth nothing, whereas it is neither the life nor limb of his cause; no, neither hair nor nail of it; neither a skirt nor an hem: but indeed meet nothing to the purpose. And therefore the Doctor did justly and discreetly decline it as impertinent, saying, it is our Churches present, not their primitive state which I undertake to vindicate; and this upon very good reason. For, The Disputes of Peter de Moulin with the Jesuites and other Papists in France, are too many to be brought into this Catalogue, wherein I desire to be brief: as also those of D. Featly, our acute Countryman, both in England and in France. Secondly, I suspected your confidence in committing the copy of your dispute to his publication by the Press, would be abused by him, and so I believe it was more wayes then one, as I have shewed.CHAP. IV. An Historicall collection of disputations of severall sorts, principally concerning differences in matter of Religion. In two sections. 1. Containing examples from the Apostles to Luther.2. Of examples from Luther to the present age. First, The Churches, whose primitive constitution was the best and nearest to that of the Apostler, both in time, matter, and form, as that of Jerusalem, Rome, Antioch, and the Churches of Asia, long since are fallen from the faith, and have unchurched themselves by their Apostasie.
The Popes now adayes, and of long time ago, are made by Cardinals, and he makes them again, as Ice and Water produce one another; but the Pope seldom makes Bishops, but Bishops make Bishops, both according So in the Canon of those that are falsely called the Canons of the Apostles. Bin. Tom. 1. Can. 1. p. 16. Concil. Arelatens. Ann. 314. It was ordained there should be Bishops to consecrate Bishops, three at the [...]east. Arelat. Can. 21. Tom. 1. Concil. p. 267. col. 1. to Ecclesiastical constitution, constant custom, and usage of the Church. Fifthly, you have too much precious work in your hands every day, then that you can warrantably lay any part of it aside, to contend with such an obstinate adversary as Mr. Onley is; and I am verily perswaded, and I assure my self, many that know your various and uncessant pains for the souls of your people of Coventry, are of my mind, that thereby you do more good in a week there, then you shall do by disputing with, or writing against a perverse Anabaptist a whole year together. THe maintenance of the Ministers of the Gospel, by Rich. Eburne. printed 1619. for Eleazer Edgar, to be sold at the Windmill in Pauls Church-yard, in 4 to The invalidity of all his answers, his sophistical helps, impertinent self-contradicting allegations are presented to himself and others, to the clearer discovery of the Popish, Political, Antichristian, and like present constitution of the Parochial Assemblies of this Nation, having yet never been true Churches from their very foundation, nor possible to be made true by Reformation, having had never yet any true Gespel-constitution.CHAP. VII. Of the Disputation at Kenelmworth, betwixt John Brian Doctor in Divinity, Minister at Coventry, and John Onley Pastor of a Church at Lawford (as he styles himself.) How it was occasioned, undertaken, and continued at divers monthly meetings there. Of man, whether the rib of which Eve, was made were one of Adams necessary ribs, or one superfluous: this is the question of Peter. super Genesin. c. 2. q. 6. p. 159. Pererius a learned Jesuit, which by his own confession is by one of his own centured for a superfluous questions Fifthly, Some account it their credit to be no changelings, especially in Religion; not knowing the difference betwixt constancy and obstinacy. Sacriledge a Snare, by Lancelot Andrews, for Andr, Heb at the Bel in Pauls churchyard, printed 1646.
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